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fairweather8588
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Yep, there's no insulation underneath. 3/4 pad wouldn't be a good idea
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SUN_HIKER
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Arizonaheat wrote: |
| inflatable Big Agnes pad acts as the insulation for the bottom of the bag |
Correct Kent. I too don't like to be confined so I just purchased the insulated inflatable Big Agnes and put my regular sleeping bag on top. I got the regular rectangular size. I tell you the insulated pad is nice and it's also very compact and light when packing. 
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BoyNhisDog
The dangerous place where the winds meet
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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That is exactly how they work Kent. the pad slips into a sleeve on the bottom of the bag (which has no insulation there) so it sort of keeps the whole thing stiff unlike the traditional bag on top of a pad. Probably great for back sleepers but I don't know about side sleepers who like to flex their legs and change positions.
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Tom Treks
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the high-end bags (as far as I have seen at least from S.D.) have straps to clench a pad. They work okay, but I still slide down the pad a bit.
I wonder if REI (or anyone in the area) rents out B.A. bags? That would be a great way to test if it works for you.
Actually, just check with "Randy's Camping Rentals and Essentials Inc." first... I'll bet he has it
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BoyNhisDog
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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You type slow around here and two replies slip in fast before you hit the send button. 
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MikeInFHAZ
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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hey slippery sleepers, there is a North Face tent called the Airfloor that has a built-in mattress, and it covers the entire area.
But at over 17 pound, I reckon its a car camping only thing. Unless your name is Tom.. teehee
and yes, Tim I do have the Wisp, Im pleased with it so far- it has incredible loft.
Got it on the third day from the Leopard 
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Tom Treks
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| mikeinFHAZ wrote: |
hey slippery sleepers, there is a North Face tent called the Airfloor that has a built-in mattress, and it covers the entire area.
But at over 17 pound, I reckon its a car camping only thing. Unless your name is Tom.. teehee |
Sounds a might dandy to me. |
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JW
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Daryl wrote: |
| What if you use 3/4 length pad? That would allow you to bend at the waist. I like the idea of the pad inside the bag. I'm thinking it would keep you warmer and make for less middle of the night adjustments. |
That's what I've been doing for several trips now: three/quarter thermarest inside a long bag. Another advantage is that if the bottom of the tent/bag, etc is wet, you've got an additional layer under you.
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MikeInFHAZ
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Tom Treks
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mikeinFHAZ wrote: |
| I heard your pack comes with a spare tire and a jack! |
The thing comes with a 4x4 jeep too. If'n I like y'alls enough.
It's amazing what you can get in one of them 50th anniv packs.
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JW
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| HikerInGilbert wrote: |
| mikeinFHAZ wrote: |
| I heard your pack comes with a spare tire and a jack! |
It's amazing what you can get in one of them 50th anniv packs. |
Uh, your truck's got a spare this time, right? :))
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Tom Treks
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| Posted: 12/21/2004, 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JW63 wrote: |
| HikerInGilbert wrote: |
| mikeinFHAZ wrote: |
| I heard your pack comes with a spare tire and a jack! |
It's amazing what you can get in one of them 50th anniv packs. |
Uh, your truck's got a spare this time, right? ) |
I care not to relive that moment in time. Thanks for bringing it up though JW. It will bite you in the arse for sure.
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MikeInFHAZ
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| Posted: 12/22/2004, 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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one of these days if we ever have little ones I'll have to carry their gear, or them, or both. The Kelty 50th would be a dang good choice. Afterall, it won Backpacker's editors choice or gear of the year award. Gotta love that!
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Davis2001R6
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Well I just recieved my Mountainsmith Vision from SnowLeopard via UPS. It came on day 3 that's including the day I ordered it. I am amazed at how soft and fluffy it is. I'm also amazed at how large it is, I knew I ordered the long but dang this thing is like a doublewide too. I can completly strech out inside of it, which is great because I typically sleep on my stomach with my hands up by my head. It has a bit of a complicated drawstring closer with two sepperate ones but I'm sure I'll figure it out. It also felt heavier than the 2# 3-5oz I've seen listed but when I put it on the scale in the stuff sack it was indeed and even 2#'s 3oz. The stuff sack seems like some type of nylon/almost plastic like feel but seems like it would have pretty good water resistancy. It stuffs to 8''X13'' but maybe smaller with a compression sack. I can't wait to field test it. Looks like the first time will be for the sindig out at the white tanks. Bring on the Snow! Ok maybe just some cold weather.
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Hikngrl
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| Posted: 12/22/2004, 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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If you are requesting snow Tim I don't want you camping by me!
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