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Nighthiker
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1714
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Posted: 2/10/2003, 9:18 pm Post subject: Rock Cairns |
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I have noted a lot more rock cairns along the Garden Valley Route (From First Water Trailhead) and Geronimo Cave trail route (Peralta CanyonTrailhead) lately. Anyone else notice? |
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Shawn I'll sell you map to Lost Dutchman mine!
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 2592 Location: Ahwatukee, AZ
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Posted: 2/10/2003, 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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They come and go. Some people feel they are an intrusion in the wilderness and knock them down. The FS hires them put back up sometimes, or well intentioned hikers rebuild them. Sometimes the net effect is that you get as lost as they were. _________________ The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. |
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cactuscat
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 459 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 2/11/2003, 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I was disapointed with all the cairns on the Cave trail the first time I did it a few months ago - makes it too easy! |
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ck1
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 1331 Location: Mesa
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Posted: 2/11/2003, 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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When we have visitors from back east, one of the things they think is "cool" is to build a cairn on a hike...most often, it's on the Pass Mtn Trail, where they aren't necessary, but the visitors always think it's cool...we take their picture next to "their cairn"...I know they don't last long... _________________ -Colin
"The Journey is the Destination" |
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maryphyl Grand Canyon Enchantress
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 669 Location: Flagstaff
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Posted: 2/13/2003, 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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cactuscat wrote: |
I was disapointed with all the cairns on the Cave trail the first time I did it a few months ago - makes it too easy! |
I call those dot to dot trails. _________________ Shikekeh hozhoogo naasha.
I walk in beauty. |
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Shawn I'll sell you map to Lost Dutchman mine!
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 2592 Location: Ahwatukee, AZ
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I know what you mean about the dot-to-dot. But I have to admit, there have been times I was very happy to see a "dot." _________________ The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. |
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evenstar
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 5548 Location: SCW by way of CA
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 9:56 am Post subject: |
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It's the paint dots that piss me off. Last time I did Ford Canyon there were huge orange paint dots all along the dry wash going to and past the old dam. _________________ John Richardson and Richie Rich, El Perro de Playero
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Daddee I once was a slug.
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 2815 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 11:07 am Post subject: |
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It's the paint dots that piss me off
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I agree - Flatiron has too many of them now too. Including that gem "stupid people this way" [or something like that] about halfway past Siphon Draw. Somewhat useful in the location - but annoying that it is spray-painted on the rock. _________________ "Only small minds want always to be right."
- Louis XIV
"...haven't you lived long enough to know that two men may honestly differ about a question and both be right?"
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Canyon Dweller
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 712 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 11:27 am Post subject: |
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but annoying that it is spray-painted on the rock.
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The spray paint on the rock took away some of the sense of adventure. It is kinda annoying _________________ Mountains are there to be climbed!
"Meaningless! Meaningless," says the teacher, "Utterly Meaningless, Everything is meaningless."-Ecclesiastes 1:2 |
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Daddee I once was a slug.
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 2815 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yes - I recall from early hiking on the trail that I missed that turn the first time and the resulting scree/trail was an absolute nightmare. On every subsequent trip I would warn people - "Don't go past me once we reach Siphon Draw - you will miss the turn and you WILL regret it" - now it almost takes the challenge out of the trail. It was always fun to see novices take the wrong tail and complain about it later (just like I did - misery loves company). _________________ "Only small minds want always to be right."
- Louis XIV
"...haven't you lived long enough to know that two men may honestly differ about a question and both be right?"
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cactuscat
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 459 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Daddee wrote: |
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It's the paint dots that piss me off
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I agree - Flatiron has too many of them now too. Including that gem "stupid people this way" [or something like that] about halfway past Siphon Draw. Somewhat useful in the location - but annoying that it is spray-painted on the rock. |
I've never noticed that one, but I really don't understand how people can get so far off that trail. It's like a highway now. |
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Daddee I once was a slug.
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 2815 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't understand how people can get so far off that trail. It's like a highway now
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It wasn't that way till the past 4 or 5 years. I used to do it an maybe run into 2 or 3 people the whole time. Now, you're right, it's flooded with all kinds of folks. The trail was much more difficult to find in some parts before - that was what made it fun. _________________ "Only small minds want always to be right."
- Louis XIV
"...haven't you lived long enough to know that two men may honestly differ about a question and both be right?"
- Abraham Lincoln |
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cactuscat
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 459 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 2/14/2003, 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's why I've been enjoying off-trail hiking much more lately! I just can't see hiking on trails that are as crowded as walking through the mall - a place I avoid like the plague! |
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