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Daddee I once was a slug.
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 2815 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 8/30/2007, 12:07 pm Post subject: I may never fly again |
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Holy. Crap.
I wonder how that looked/sounded to the folks inside the plane.
Now, can anyone explain how 100 trillion (million million) watts can hit a plane and nothing happens to the electronics inside, and somehow danger abounds in the presence of just a few microwaves when I use my cell-phone, or (heaven forbid) my iPod?
Maybe this explains it:
_________________ "Only small minds want always to be right."
- Louis XIV
"...haven't you lived long enough to know that two men may honestly differ about a question and both be right?"
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CatValet Got Gear?
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 735 Location: Scottsdale
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Posted: 8/30/2007, 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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You think that's scary.......what if you were onboard and ate your spent fuel rod chili just before takeoff??? KaBloooey |
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jdahling
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 233 Location: East Valley
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 1:15 am Post subject: |
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I fly a lot for work - fortunately nothing like this has ever happened to me.
Although, since I've not eaten the chili just before takeoff - perhaps I wouldn't know!
I have to imagine that it is still safer than Arizona roads and our crazy drivers. _________________ Cheers,
Jeannine
"Life is an adventure ... Made for an adventurer ..." |
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Hnak
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1766 Location: Prescott, AZ
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Well, the explanation is pretty mundane... The risk of cell phones and other electronic in the airplane isn't that they will hurt anyone, it's just that they might interfere with some of the plane's instrumentation. If you're flying is lousy weather, through mountainous terrain, you want all the equipment to be functioning properly.... Well, actually you'd want it to perform properly ALL the time!
Yep, flying is still much safer than driving.... _________________ The world is older and bigger than we are. This is a hard truth for some folks to swallow. —EDWARD ABBEY |
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azhiker96
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1419
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm too demanding but I'd kinda like the planes to be designed so that a cell phone wouldn't interfere with it. However, there is a worse alternative. Imagine being on a 2 hour flight next to someone talking on their cell phone!! _________________ It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -- Carl Sagan |
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sacred_datura
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 138 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 11:32 am Post subject: |
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azhiker96 wrote: |
Maybe I'm too demanding but I'd kinda like the planes to be designed so that a cell phone wouldn't interfere with it. However, there is a worse alternative. Imagine being on a 2 hour flight next to someone talking on their cell phone!! |
That's reason alone to ban phones on planes! |
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kurthzone Thread Killer
Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 1097 Location: Peoria, Arizona
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe all this cell phone crap. If they were that detrimental they wouldn't be allowed on board. Can anyone explain the technology that makes them a hazard? The same with hospitals. Is there really some danger? The last two times I've been in a hospital I've seen patients, doctors and nurses blabbing away on their cells. What's up? I do believe the satire in the cartoon is apropos. _________________ ;o)> |
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azhiker96
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1419
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Posted: 8/31/2007, 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Stan, stop making sense! Everything is dangerous! Fingernail clippers and toothpaste can bring down a plane! (The preceding was satire.)
Really though, I haven't found any hospital equipment that was affected by a cell phone. I think hospital lawyers make that call though to help defend against lawsuits. If cell phones were allowed in surgical areas, that could become the basis for a lawsuit when someone has a poor outcome. Lawyers have made fortunes with less credible theories. _________________ It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -- Carl Sagan |
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RC
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 109 Location: Irwin, PA
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Posted: 9/2/2007, 1:23 am Post subject: |
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We have satellite and cell phones on all of our a/c and they are used in flight. I doubt anything would ever happen, but I suppose there's a chance that a plane full of 150 people using all types of different electronic devices could interfere with instrumentation (as Hank mentioned) or worse could interfere with the signals the instruments receive for approach guidance. That would be worse case scenario.
My $.02 _________________ "When a man is tired of Arizona, he is tired of life"
Forget the box, just think outside! |
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kurthzone Thread Killer
Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 1097 Location: Peoria, Arizona
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Posted: 9/3/2007, 9:29 am Post subject: |
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azhiker96 wrote: |
Hey Stan, stop making sense! |
Talking Heads? _________________ ;o)> |
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fritzski
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 50 Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Posted: 9/6/2007, 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I've flown for America West/USirways for 18 years and I can tell you on any given flight there are numerous pasengers who forget to turn off their phones, although I could never imagine one of the pilots ever forgetting...
It's no big deal. The rule stemmed from an ultraconservative FAA dealing with new technology way back when. The fear was possible interference with aircraft instrumentation. This is why they request that ALL electronic devices be turned off prior to approach and landing. Very low risk of interference, but always better safe than sorry.
Since then the FAA has recently considered dropping the cell phone ban during cruise, but never did for fear of creating an obnoxious environment in the confines of the cabin. |
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Arizonaheat Got Supes Juice?
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 1741 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 9/6/2007, 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Fritzski. good to see you. _________________ Our lives are not determined by what happens to us but by how we react to what happens, not by what life brings to us, but by the attitude we bring to life. |
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IGO
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 4144 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: 9/6/2007, 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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fritzski wrote: |
Since then the FAA has recently considered dropping the cell phone ban during cruise, but never did for fear of creating an obnoxious environment in the confines of the cabin. |
Take would be a mess. _________________ "Surely all God's people, however serious or savage, great or small, like to play. Whales and elephants, dancing, humming gnats, and invisibly small mischievous microbes - all are warm with divine radium and must have lots of fun in them." John Muir |
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Hikngrl Canyoneering is my 'Happy Place'
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 5578 Location: Peoria, AZ
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Posted: 9/6/2007, 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Awsesome new avatar IGO! _________________ ~~~Diane~~~
I want to shine! |
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evenstar
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 5548 Location: SCW by way of CA
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Posted: 9/6/2007, 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hikngrl wrote: |
Awsesome new avatar IGO! |
Looks like his glasses are growing a beard! _________________ John Richardson and Richie Rich, El Perro de Playero
http://members.tripod.com/~evenstar/index.html
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When the Man waked up he said, "What is Wild Dog doing here?" And the Woman said, "His name is not Wild Dog anymore, but the First Friend, because he will be our friend for always and always and always. Take him with you when you go hunting."
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