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YH Hooli Wants to be just like me!
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 387 Location: Portland, OR and Yosemite on a good day.
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Posted: 5/18/2007, 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Go to Andrew Skurka's website. He's got a entire section dedicated to Nutrition and if there's anyone who would know about eating trailfood for a prolonged period of time its him. Listening to a recent podcast, he stated that since 2002 he's spent about 2 years of his time out on the trail. (Thats a whole lot of bag nights) |
I checked out the website...very informative from a guy who has to calculate everything, being a long distance thru hiker. Check out his daily meals...very simple. |
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Davis2001R6
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 5591 Location: Italy
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 1:36 am Post subject: |
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I know I can't do 1 lb a food a day, I had about 9-10lbs on my last 6 or 7 day trip. 800 calories a day seems WAY too low, especially for the amount of energy you will be expending. I was hungry a lot and didn't bring enough food (for my liking).
My standard is
Oatmeal for breakfast (1 or 2 packets of quakrs instant)
Flavored tuna for lunch (a bit on the heavy side, but I also don't like it in warm weather), so I would go Peanut butter and honey on a tortilla.
A 2 person mountain house for dinner.
I lacked the snacks on my last trip, had a few bars/gels/PB crackers, but only 2-3 things per day. I needed more jerky, dried fruit, trail mix type stuff. |
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Suz
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 3186
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Hiked in the canyon today to Dripping Springs and had time to focus on food while feeling the climb and heat....carrying a backpack, pole, camera and juggling food.
I'm going to opt for a homemade granola (720 calories) for breakfast. Peanut butter and something for lunch, prosecutor bars & powerbars for snacks, a tinch of trail mix---(it's really too heavy and too hard to eat while moving) and a dehydrated meal for dinner. That should bump up my calories to around 1800 for the day. I'll add more for the climb out Tanner.
Yes, I have jerky, dried fruit, hard candy and triscuts. I have ordered the freeze dried chicken and hope to add that to some of the dinners for additional protien if it arrives in time.
Thanks everyone for helping me think this through.....it's not an easy task to pack food for that many days and still keep the pack light. |
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beckett
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 1066
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Davis2001R6 wrote: |
My standard is
Oatmeal for breakfast (1 or 2 packets of quakrs instant)
Flavored tuna for lunch (a bit on the heavy side, but I also don't like it in warm weather), so I would go Peanut butter and honey on a tortilla.
A 2 person mountain house for dinner. |
I tried several mountain house meals on my last camp trip and couldn't get them to come out in the right consistency. I followed the directions without much success. I was very disappointed. Any suggestions ... I will not buy another one at this point.
Linda _________________ "A real friend is one who walks in when the rest of the world walks out."
-- Walter Winchell, American newspaper commentator |
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azbackpackr Hi Tech Wizardess
Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 3639 Location: Needles CA
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 5:16 am Post subject: |
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I am not a big eater at dinner, and I use Safeway cup soups, the lentil, potato, red beans and rice, etc. ones. I repack them into sm. ziploc bags and put all into one lg. ziploc bag, which will fit many days' worth of dinners. I also often bring bagels to eat w/ the soup, but if no room, like when carrying a bear canister, I use MRE crackers instead. Breakfast is either granola or instant oatmeal, mixed w/ powdered milk, plus dry fruit. Lunch is crackers and p.b. and dry fruit, nuts and gorp. On short trips I do more elaborate lunches. |
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Davis2001R6
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 5591 Location: Italy
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 8:14 am Post subject: |
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beckett wrote: |
I tried several mountain house meals on my last camp trip and couldn't get them to come out in the right consistency. I followed the directions without much success. I was very disappointed. Any suggestions ... I will not buy another one at this point.
Linda |
Thats strange, I have probably ate about 50+ of those meals and seldom have a problem with them. The last problem I had was when I burned a hole into the ziplock I put them, accidentaly touching it against the stove. I have a little problem getting the dinners with rice to fully cook, so I just stay away from them normally. For me it's a simple as it gets, 16 oz of water (for every one, they don' vary) boil the water pour it in and let sit for 8 minutes or so.
When packing for a long trip they do take up much more room than say the lipton sides, they also aren't the cheapest, but I've been lucky the last two years buying them in bulk when on sale. |
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Cameron
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Gilbert
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Last mo I did a 7 day 50 mi backpack in Grand Canyon camping at a different site each day and my food pack was 7#. I repack each meal(at home) into a sandwich bag and when the meal is used the bag becomes a trash bag, (if you have any). Breakfast was oatmeal or a dry cereal, lunch, nuts, trail mix, dry fruit, dinner, instant rice with instant dry beans, ramen noodle,(toss the flavor packet) and add your own seasoning sun dried tomatos is great or instant dry beans, instant mac & chz, (from Costco, single serv pack) works for me I like to use 2 packs of the mack but only 1 pack of the chz.I also like to add a bit of chili powder.
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evenstar
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 5548 Location: SCW by way of CA
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I like the Mountain House Granola and blue berries; also the beef stroganoff and the lasagna in meat sauce. Like the new vacuum packed stuff....saves lots of room. _________________ John Richardson and Richie Rich, El Perro de Playero
http://members.tripod.com/~evenstar/index.html
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Cameron
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Gilbert
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Too much salt in the mountain house meals also I am a veggie head so not many choices.
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Great article in June 07 backpacker mag. about the murder last year in Havasu canyon.
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azbackpackr Hi Tech Wizardess
Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 3639 Location: Needles CA
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I'm wondering if there are more vegetarian entrees available online not carried at REI, etc. Although, that might not solve your issues with the salt.
Saw the article in BPer, it's being discussed on HAZ, although we could re-open the topic here as well. (Haven't decided if I want to go back there again or not.) |
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Cynhikr
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1197 Location: Tempe, AZ.
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Cameron wrote: |
Too much salt in the mountain house meals also I am a veggie head so not many choices.
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Great article in June 07 backpacker mag. about the murder last year in Havasu canyon.
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Maybe try http://www.packlitefoods.com/
Also, check the vegetarian meals available here > http://www.adventurefoods.com/afsearch.asp
kurt _________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Suz
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 3186
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Posted: 5/20/2007, 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome sites Kurt, thanks! Placing an order! |
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Cynhikr
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1197 Location: Tempe, AZ.
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Posted: 5/21/2007, 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Backcountry Cooking
This Wednesday, 5/23/2007 @ 6:30 PM
Explore the adventurous world of backcountry dining. Members of our crew will share their favorite hints for planning and preparing tasty, nutritious trail meals.
Get tips for enjoying prepackaged foods as well as learn ideas for do-it-yourself cuisine.
Location: REI Tempe
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Registration Required? No. _________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Tom Treks Gear Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3347
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Posted: 5/21/2007, 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the links, Kurt. A little freeze dried meat added would be good (for me).
Freeze dried is the way to go for weight savings. I don't mind any of the Mountain House (Marine Cuisine) meals. The trick is to let it sit for 12 mins (the pack says 9), and make sure it's mixed real well after adding the water. I also like adding crushed red peppers, seasoning, or parmesan cheese half way through rehydration.
The packs are pretty big to begin with. It's easy to split it into two serving bags because it's all well mixed already. Cup-o-soup lunches are pretty light. Try adding cold water if you're not wanting to pull the stove out. It really isn't too bad. Tastes like a cold pasta salad. Heck, I don't even mind crunching ramen noodles like a snack.
It's a very fine line when it comes down to suggested calories vs needed calories. Stretch the limit. 9 days will fly by with no ill effects unless you really starve yourself. Just keep some protein bars handy for the strenuous trails.
Oh, and that GRAND BULL BURGER with GREASY FRIES at Jacob Lake yesterday sure was a tasty morsel after we climbed out... it even comes with extra skin... |
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Nighthiker
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1714
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Posted: 5/21/2007, 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Visit aisle 4 and 5 at your local Bashas'. New items; Knorr Sides Plus (aisle 5), noodles and vegtables in five different flavors. Very very good. Bumble Bee precooked chicken breast (aisle 4) 4 oz package.
If you know you have a water source the dry food section items work great. Water souce unknow, MRE's you can buy just the main course items which is cheaper then buying the complete MRE. |
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