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PostPosted: 6/28/2005, 11:25 am    Post subject: Cave Creek fire claims world's largest saguaro Reply to topic Reply with quote
From today's Arizona Republic
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0628bigsaguaro28-ON.html

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Cave Creek fire claims world's largest saguaro

Peter Corbett
The Arizona Republic
Jun. 28, 2005 11:15 AM

A week-old wildfire north of Cave Creek scorched the world's largest saguaro and the 46-foot cactus near Horseshoe Lake is not likely to survive, said Tonto National Forest spokeswoman Emily Garber.

The so-called Grand One on a ridge south of the lake is recognized in the National Register of Big Trees for its height, mass of limbs and a base circumference of 7 feet, 10 inches.

"That entire ridge did get burned," Garber said, adding that the Grand One and another large saguaro near it were burned by the Cave Creek Complex fire. "Chances are they are going to go. They were damaged."

No one has taken a close look this week at the giant saguaro, one of the icons of Arizona's Sonoran Desert.

The Grand One was identified in 2003 as the world's largest.

Since then, an equally giant saguaro was spotted near Mammouth, northeast of Tucson, said Ken Morrow, Arizona coordinator of the big tree register.

The two saguaros are listed as co-champions in the latest register.

Morrow, 51, a Phoenix native and nurseryman in Patagonia, is holding out some hope that the Grand One can survive the fire.

"Sometimes they survive if they just get blackened on one side," he said. "If it gets too hot it will cook them."

Saguaros, whose scientific name is cereus giganteus, grow only in Arizona, southeastern California and northern Mexico.

The Grand One is estimated to be between 180 to 200 years old


And the fires rage on....
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PostPosted: 6/28/2005, 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
agreed.... Sad
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
I could see the flames from my balcony lat night. i didn't know it went as far west at 7th street, they were probably a good 10 miles north though.
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Oh how very sad... Crying or Very sad They are so magestic and take so long to grow...
I guess we should try to look at a brighter side, Nature has it's plans and with this devastation will come rebirth ( I guess there is a purpose for all, knownst to us)
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Davis2001R6 wrote:
I could see the flames from my balcony lat night. i didn't know it went as far west at 7th street, they were probably a good 10 miles north though.
Tim, you were probably seeing the Broad Fire. It's part of the Cave Creek Complex, burning on Black Mesa at the south end of New River Mesa, just outside Spur Cross Ranch.
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
That would sound right.
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Cave Creek fire claims world's largest saguaro Reply to topic Reply with quote
GTG wrote:
From today's Arizona Republic
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Cave Creek fire claims world's largest saguaro
Peter Corbett

Saguaros, whose scientific name is cereus giganteus, grow only in Arizona, southeastern California and northern Mexico.
The Grand One is estimated to be between 180 to 200 years old
It may survive, though it will show the signs of it's damage. The critical factor is how high a temp the roots are exposed too. In 2-300 years, these beautiful lifeforms have seen a few fires.

Also, the estimate could be on the low side: if the arms have arms and there are arm buds on the arms, it is probably 200+. I've seen several in remote areas south and east of Tucson, at exactly the right altitude (plenty of caves and bats down there which are an on-going requirement, since they partner with the cactus, etc.), that have well-developed tertiary arms that are maybe 300+.

One of my local favorites in the Supes, though not 30 feet tall (it is near a trail which affects their height), has more than 28 arms (I couldn't see them all) and it is probably around 250+.
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PostPosted: 6/29/2005, 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
JW wrote:

One of my local favorites in the Supes, though not 30 feet tall (it is near a trail which affects their height), has more than 28 arms (I couldn't see them all) and it is probably around 250+.

Is that the one next to the Boulder Canyon Trail near the north end of Battleship?
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PostPosted: 6/30/2005, 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
I know of one with 54 arms, that is probably as big or bigger than the Grand One. I will measure the circumference this fall and see.
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