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I watched every moment of the returns on the edge of my seat and couldn't have been happier when at 9:00 PM it was announced that Barack Obama was our new president elect!!!!
God bless Barack Obama and keep him safe and guide him in the right direction for our great country!!! 
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Yep - It was exciting to watch the returns and the amazing speeches. History has been made -- time to move on and fix the mess we are in ...
I am also glad the senate did not go democratic for a fillibuster proof majority -- Its good to have the checks and balances in place.
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| Voted Thursday before I left at Peoria city hall, glad I sent in for the early ballet as the line was a good hour or two long and I only had to drop it off. In Chicago right now, couldn't get tickets for Grant Park but yes we sat at a bar and watched the election. Never thought I would say that. All I could think of when I kept seeing Grant Park was how awesome it would have been if the Cubs won the world series. |
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I was pleased to see the record turn out by Americans to vote. It should be like that every election.
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I voted my mail in. I knew that if I did not, I would not have the time to vote.
THis was deffinatly an election I was not excited for. The way I see it, we would have 4 years of hell under Obama or Mcain. Looks like for years of hell under Obama. I don't think either one of them could be re-elected.
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I'm getting to be an old guy, and this is the first election I remember in which I voted FOR someone rather than against someone. It feels really good! I'm sorry for those of you who can't feel excited about the future under Obama, maybe your time will come. The statement this makes about race is HUGE, if nothing else, (but I personally believe there is so much more.) To have been alive in this country during this change is a privilege.
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Socialism is nothing to get excited about. Those who are not excited are rightfully scared. They are the same people who at least have some common sense.
Obama has promised "change", and I believe he will deliver as promised. I just don't think his brand of "change" is what the rest of you had in mind when you voted for him.
Please, please prove me wrong!
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Stock Market sure isn't excited.
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"Income Redistribution" is code for "taking money from those that earned it and giving it to those that didn't".
What bothers me in both major parties is how far we've strayed from the Constitution. And we're still heading further away from it.
We truly are headed in the direction of socialism whether you want to believe it or not. Just in your lifetime, look at how far we've gone down that path. The Federal Government becomes larger and larger and more and more intrusive into your life. Your taxes have probably doubled or tripled and the value of your dollar has been eroded constantly.
Lots of folks get all wrapped up in "Democrat" or "Republican" or vote for one candidate or another for reasons that have nothing to do with the role of government within our society. How many voted for Obama because he's black? How many voted against him for the same reason. And guess what, whether he's black or white has absolutely nothing to do with whether he's qualified to be the President of the United States. It may make you feel good to have voted for a Black man, to assuage some of your unwarranted guilt that we're all supposed to feel because of injustices perpetrated by others. How many voted for McCain because he picked a woman as his running mate or because he's white? It's the same thing. It has nothing to do with the role of government in our society.
Most people vote the way their parents did, or how their unions tell them to vote, or how the media tells them to vote, or how (for God's sake!) Oprah tells them to vote. Very few sit down and write down what it is that they believe the role of government is, in the context of the Constitution of the United States. If you did that, without being biased by labels, maybe we wouldn't have a government-caused "crisis" as frequently.
It's nice that most everyone went out and voted, but if you did it because it was "fashionable" or because you wanted be able to impress people with how progressive you are because you voted for a black man or any number of reasons other than voting for the person who you think supports the Constitution more faithfully, I for one wish you hadn't bothered!
With that said, now that Mr. Obama has won the election, it's time to give him a chance to prove himself worthy of the position. We should all WANT him to succeed, whether we voted for him or not. I have no doubt that he is a good person and compassionate. Whether he leads the country further into the depths of Socialism and ruin remain to be seen. Lets check back in 4 years and do an honest evaluation of his presidency. I, as an American, hope that its 4 years that we can be proud of. |
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| Posted: 11/5/2008, 3:17 pm Post subject: your candidate or mine |
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The issues at stake should not be whether your candidate won last night or not. Americans were worried long before the election and will be worried long after the election. Obama is not a miracle worker and neither is McCain, either party would have their hands full of problems for the next 4 years and 2 months.
What we should be interested in now is supporting and wishing well the candidates that won last night and wish them godspeed, luck and all power available to lead this country of AMERICANS to a better, prosperous future. We as AMERICANS should support our president future and current to guide us to a positive outcome of the AMERICAN way of life. I urge all persons concerned with such issues to take a few minutes and read what John McCain said last night as well as what Obama had to say at the end of the election coverage. They both spoke highly of the other and pledged to work TOGETHER AS FELLOW AMERICANS as should all of us in my opinion. We should not give wishes of misfortunes, doubt and anger ourselves because we feel the proper person has won or think that since our candidate won all is now well. America is in a mess right now and it will take a lot of work by us AMERICANS to make things better.
And as another thought to dwell on, AMERICANS turned out in record numbers to vote in this election. Through good times or bad we should all AS A COUNTRY exercise our right to VOTE and in every future election, increase the numbers of registered voter turnout each and every time.
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Remarks from Senator John McCain
November 4, 2008
Thank you. Thank you, my friends. Thank you for coming here on this beautiful Arizona evening.
My friends, we have -- we have come to the end of a long journey. The American people have spoken, and they have spoken clearly. A little while ago, I had the honor of calling Senator Barack Obama to congratulate him on being elected the next president of the country that we both love.
In a contest as long and difficult as this campaign has been, his success alone commands my respect for his ability and perseverance. But that he managed to do so by inspiring the hopes of so many millions of Americans who had once wrongly believed that they had little at stake or little influence in the election of an American president is something I deeply admire and commend him for achieving.
This is an historic election, and I recognize the special significance it has for African-Americans and for the special pride that must be theirs tonight.
I've always believed that America offers opportunities to all who have the industry and will to seize it. Senator Obama believes that, too. But we both recognize that though we have come a long way from the old injustices that once stained our nation's reputation and denied some Americans the full blessings of American citizenship, the memory of them still had the power to wound.
A century ago, President Theodore Roosevelt's invitation of Booker T. Washington to dine at the White House was taken as an outrage in many quarters. America today is a world away from the cruel and prideful bigotry of that time. There is no better evidence of this than the election of an African American to the presidency of the United States. Let there be no reason now for any American to fail to cherish their citizenship in this, the greatest nation on Earth.
Senator Obama has achieved a great thing for himself and for his country. I applaud him for it, and offer in my sincere sympathy that his beloved grandmother did not live to see this day, though our faith assures us she is at rest in the presence of her creator and so very proud of the good man she helped raise.
Senator Obama and I have had and argued our differences, and he has prevailed. No doubt many of those differences remain. These are difficult times for our country, and I pledge to him tonight to do all in my power to help him lead us through the many challenges we face.
I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our good will and earnest effort to find ways to come together, to find the necessary compromises, to bridge our differences, and help restore our prosperity, defend our security in a dangerous world, and leave our children and grandchildren a stronger, better country than we inherited.
Whatever our differences, we are fellow Americans. And please believe me when I say no association has ever meant more to me than that.
It is natural tonight to feel some disappointment, but tomorrow we must move beyond it and work together to get our country moving again. We fought as hard as we could.
And though we fell short, the failure is mine, not yours.
I am so deeply grateful to all of you for the great honor of your support and for all you have done for me. I wish the outcome had been different, my friends. The road was a difficult one from the outset. But your support and friendship never wavered. I cannot adequately express how deeply indebted I am to you.
I am especially grateful to my wife, Cindy, my children, my dear mother and all my family and to the many old and dear friends who have stood by my side through the many ups and downs of this long campaign. I have always been a fortunate man, and never more so for the love and encouragement you have given me.
You know, campaigns are often harder on a candidate's family than on the candidate, and that's been true in this campaign. All I can offer in compensation is my love and gratitude, and the promise of more peaceful years ahead.
I am also, of course, very thankful to Governor Sarah Palin, one of the best campaigners I have ever seen and an impressive new voice in our party for reform and the principles that have always been our greatest strength. Her husband Todd and their five beautiful children with their tireless dedication to our cause, and the courage and grace they showed in the rough-and-tumble of a presidential campaign. We can all look forward with great interest to her future service to Alaska, the Republican Party and our country.
To all my campaign comrades, from Rick Davis and Steve Schmidt and Mark Salter, to every last volunteer who fought so hard and valiantly month after month in what at times seemed to be the most challenged campaign in modern times, thank you so much. A lost election will never mean more to me than the privilege of your faith and friendship.
I don't know what more we could have done to try to win this election. I'll leave that to others to determine. Every candidate makes mistakes, and I'm sure I made my share of them. But I won't spend a moment of the future regretting what might have been.
This campaign was and will remain the great honor of my life. And my heart is filled with nothing but gratitude for the experience and to the American people for giving me a fair hearing before deciding that Senator Obama and my old friend Senator Joe Biden should have the honor of leading us for the next four years.
I would not be an American worthy of the name, should I regret a fate that has allowed me the extraordinary privilege of serving this country for a half a century. Today, I was a candidate for the highest office in the country I love so much. And tonight, I remain her servant. That is blessing enough for anyone and I thank the people of Arizona for it.
Tonight, more than any night, I hold in my heart nothing but love for this country and for all its citizens, whether they supported me or Senator Obama, I wish Godspeed to the man who was my former opponent and will be my president.
And I call on all Americans, as I have often in this campaign, to not despair of our present difficulties but to believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here.
Americans never quit. We never surrender. We never hide from history, we make history.
Thank you, and God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you all very much.
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Remarks of President-Elect Barack Obama
Tuesday, November 4th, 2008
If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.
It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen; by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different; that their voice could be that difference.
It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America.
It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long by so many to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful of what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.
It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election, at this defining moment, change has come to America.
I just received a very gracious call from Senator McCain. He fought long and hard in this campaign, and he's fought even longer and harder for the country he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine, and we are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader. I congratulate him and Governor Palin for all they have achieved, and I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.
I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on that train home to Delaware, the Vice President-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.
I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last sixteen years, the rock of our family and the love of my life, our nation's next First Lady, Michelle Obama. Sasha and Malia, I love you both so much, and you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the White House. And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother is watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight, and know that my debt to them is beyond measure.
To my campaign manager David Plouffe, my chief strategist David Axelrod, and the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics - you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you've sacrificed to get it done.
But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to - it belongs to you.
I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington - it began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston.
It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give five dollars and ten dollars and twenty dollars to this cause. It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy; who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep; from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on the doors of perfect strangers; from the millions of Americans who volunteered, and organized, and proved that more than two centuries later, a government of the people, by the people and for the people has not perished from this Earth. This is your victory.
I know you didn't do this just to win an election and I know you didn't do it for me. You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime - two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century. Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us. There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after their children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage, or pay their doctor's bills, or save enough for college. There is new energy to harness and new jobs to be created; new schools to build and threats to meet and alliances to repair.
The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you - we as a people will get there.
There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as President, and we know that government can't solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And above all, I will ask you join in the work of remaking this nation the only way it's been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years - block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.
What began twenty-one months ago in the depths of winter must not end on this autumn night. This victory alone is not the change we seek - it is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It cannot happen without you.
So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism; of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers - in this country, we rise or fall as one nation; as one people.
Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long. Let us remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House - a party founded on the values of self-reliance, individual liberty, and national unity. Those are values we all share, and while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, "We are not enemies, but friends...though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection." And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn - I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.
And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of our world - our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand. To those who would tear this world down - we will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security - we support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright - tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from our the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope.
For that is the true genius of America - that America can change. Our union can be perfected. And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.
This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight is about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing - Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.
She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons - because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.
And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America - the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can't, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.
At a time when women's voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.
When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs and a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.
When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.
She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that "We Shall Overcome." Yes we can.
A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination. And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change. Yes we can.
America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves - if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?
This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people:
Yes We Can. Thank you, God bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.
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but: the question of REAL importance is, how many of you voted for BUSH?!
i voted as always  (third party, this time around) it strikes me as interesting and saddening that the large majority of Americans dont even know who else is on the ticket. and even worse, third party candidates are never allowed to debate with the Dem/Rebub parties. we could really use a different system, but for now... the future (and present) left for mr. obama is of waste, corruption and failed policies.
it has been said that you get the government you deserve, facist, socialist whatever you want, you get. and the problem with "income redistribution" is simple. Republicans are pissed that for once, the "redistribution" is from the top down, not the other way around with which they are so comfortable. Taking money from the middle class (us) and "redistributing" to the elite never seemed to be of concern, now did it?
www.informationclearinghouse.info is a good source of reference.
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I always find it interesting when people take a statement that has no political bias and immediately add there own bias, almost frothing at the mouth, as if they feel they have to defend their own political point of view.
It's probably just me, but I try to reflect back to the word and intent of our founding fathers. I'm repeating myself, but we've wandered far afield from what those wise men stated as the role of the Federal Government. One of my favorite quotes is from one of the wisest of all; Thomas Jefferson:
"Still one thing more, fellow citizens — a wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities."
Thomas Jefferson, from his first inaugural address on the limited role that government should play in the lives of its citizens.
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