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Should riders be expected to clean up and pack out their horse's crap? |
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evenstar
Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 5548 Location: SCW by way of CA
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Posted: 3/25/2004, 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Think best way to keep horse poopie off the trails would be get rid of the source.....means all you horse's asses would have to find a new past-time! _________________ John Richardson and Richie Rich, El Perro de Playero
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Daddee I once was a slug.
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 2815 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: 3/25/2004, 10:22 am Post subject: |
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but he has become much more spontaneous with the increased influnces of "others". |
You shouldn't let Harley hike with Hooli around - he's a bad influence in that way.
Rich is pretty good about it though.
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On the other hand, in the winter, the mule poop can offer a bit of traction on the slippery snow packed areas... |
Gotta admit - there is an angle that quite simply never occurred to me.
And I'm kinda glad it didn't. _________________ "Only small minds want always to be right."
- Louis XIV
"...haven't you lived long enough to know that two men may honestly differ about a question and both be right?"
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primerob
Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: 4/3/2004, 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Oh how civilized and sanitized we have become.
Why don't we make fish and game put diapers on the coyotes...
Just hike, and don't make such a fuss.
I clean up after my 90 pound lab and he does his best to out doo the horses.
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SUN_HIKER
Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 1057
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Posted: 4/3/2004, 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Although smelly- horse manure is some of the best natural fertilizer around, unlike dog poop. In the city of course it is usually required to be picked up.
GB _________________ SUN_HIKER
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BoyNhisDog The dangerous place where the winds meet
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1375 Location: Tucson
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Posted: 4/3/2004, 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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This is a great thread. Some of the answers are very humorous but the description of the Grand Canyon trails is bad. I don't think the cowboys would like to have a diaper on their horses though.
I don't like horses and cattle messing up the streams.
One of my very first jobs was on a farm and the first thing that guy had my friend and I do was shovel out the neglected pig barn. It was real, real bad. We were 15 years old and needed the summer job. My friend started crying. I told him to keep shoveling. It couldn't last forever and we just got there, couldn't really refuse if we wanted the job and the huge pay ($1.25/hr) which was better than the .50/hr another farmer had been giving me to plow.
Well, we did get through that barn and never let it get that bad again, but I never will forget that ammonia smell. It was the strongest smell I have ever experienced.
So the occasional load of road apples out on the trail doesn't bother me much at all as long as it isn't messing up the watershed, but if it were all over like in the Canyon, then it would. _________________ Seize from every moment its unique novelty and do not prepare your joys
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samiam
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 171 Location: Casagrande
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Posted: 5/21/2004, 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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what if it were a wild animal? Horses were wild in most of the areas for a long time and still are on alot of reservations. I personally wouldnt care if it were picked up . Heck most people dont know that the horse is crapping. they dont have to stop to crap,but a good rider letts them stop to peeee. If you look (i dont expect that) Horse piles are mostly ground hay, it drys verry fast and has no fertilizing properties. Its mostly like potting soil..Besides on a good trip you would need to have a pack mule to carry the old dung..Ummm another thing, what do most of us do about our own feces? I think comparing dog poop to horse poop is like comparing apples to orages,well maybee grapes to grapfruit! I havent been out in years,exept for a quickie up the peralta with a water bottle in my havd..is there alot of Horse recycling out there?? _________________ Sam I Am |
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Leva
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 40 Location: Hidden Valley (Maricopa area) AZ
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Posted: 5/22/2004, 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Horse apples are really pretty benign -- they dry up and blow away within days, do not generally carry many harmful organisms, do not stink, and provide vital nutrients to the soil. Just walk around them ...
It would not be feasible for most people to pack out the droppings. Also, how are you supposed to pack them out? A horse can poop fifty pounds of droppings a day. Not practical.
When I had a horse, I WOULD get off and knock the droppings off to the side of the trail if it was a narrow trail. But I can't imagine having to carry baggies and a shovel and trying to pack that out. I'd have had to get a pack animal just for the manure.
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