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sharrack
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 8:20 am Post subject: Question about Josephine saddle/canyon in the Rita's |
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Has anyone accessed the bottom of the canyon from either salero canyon rd
in Patagonia or from highway 19 near Tubac?
Just wondering how the driving trail is going in .
Thanks K>s> |
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randy883
Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have accessed it both by driving in on FR143 (Bull Springs Rd) and by hiking from Madera Canyon up the Vault Mine Trail and Agua Caliente trail to Mt Hopkins Rd, then down an old jeep track to the bottom where FR4082 comes in from its junction with FR143, then hiking back up the canyon to Josephine Saddle and back down Old Baldy trail to Roundup parking lot (that is a long tough day).
FR143 is pretty good from Patagonia through Alto to the junction with FR4082, which becomes a rough 4wd road for a mile or so before ending at the trailhead in Josephine Canyon. If you have a 4x4, then you can drive in that mile, otherwise just park at the junction and hike in.
I wouldn't recommend going in from the I-19 way, since the part of FR143 from the Mt Hopkins Rd to the mouth of Josephine Canyon is (or was) quite nasty in places.
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sharrack
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tips.
It looks like there is a driving trail off of I-19 south of Tubac that leads to that same junction.
Is that bull springs rd?
What exit is that off of?
Kenny |
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randy883
Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't been that way. That is another road that heads towards FR143 south of where I have hiked. |
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randy883
Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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The way I have gone in is to get off I-19 at Canoa exit, cross under the freeway and drive south on the frontage road to Elephant Head Road, the east across the river and rr tracks. Shortly after that, the Mt Hopkins Rd is on the right. The Bull Springs Rd is a right turn, a little ways before you reach the Smithsonian visitor center. |
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sharrack
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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How long of a ride (Time) is it to Josephine canyon from that turn off near the research center ?
Thanks for your help.
Kenny |
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randy883
Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: 6/9/2009, 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I really can't give you an answer on that. Rough road in places and I only did it once years ago, but it isn't that far, so I would guess less than an hour. |
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sharrack
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Posted: 6/16/2009, 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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It's about 13 miles of pretty rough road and can take almost 2 hours of driving.
4wd is a must and I'd steer clear of the whole area during the monsoon because of the multiple places you can get trapped or not get through at all.
Not to mention getting trapped in the canyon during a storm.
p.s. - there's a graveyard of vehicles that never made the cut scattered along the trail..........at least 6
I may try it from the Patagonia side just for giggles!
Kenny S |
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randy883
Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: 6/16/2009, 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Like I told you in my original reply...I would only recommend going in from Patagonia, as that approach is much better road. Sounds like you enjoyed that collection of abandoned vehicles as much as me! |
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sharrack
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Posted: 6/17/2009, 7:20 am Post subject: |
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The reason I went in on Mt Hopkins rd was the time savings.
Going in from Patagonia is easily a 30- 40 minute longer drive on the highway south out of Tucson and a few more miles once you get off road as told by the signage on the trail.
The 4082 trail to the trailhead is not 1 mile from the 143 turn off.
It's listed as 2 miles at the turn off sign
I might add...........there is UDA activity in the canyon as is in most
Sky island ranges.
It was a good fact finding / scouting mission that will give me the ability
to better lay out my day the next time I go.
Kenny S |
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SkyIslandHiker
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 186 Location: Sahuarita (Tucson) AZ
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Posted: 6/18/2009, 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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sharrack wrote: |
The reason I went in on Mt Hopkins rd was the time savings.
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If you're looking to save time, the top of the Josephine Canyon Trail (Josephine Saddle) is just a 2.5 mile hike from easily-accessible Madera Canyon. It's a lot quicker to hike that extra 2.5 miles each way than drive around to the lower trail head. From Madera Canyon, it's 12.2 miles roundtrip to/from the FR4082 trail head.
Josephine Canyon is a gorgeous hike in the woods. The trail is hit and miss but it's hard to get lost. Some of the largest alligator junipers that I've seen are in Josephine Canyon.
I live near the Santa Ritas so if you want some company let me know. _________________ TucsonHikers - Southern Arizona's Hiking Network!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TucsonHikers/ |
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