Spelling Guide to Arizona Place Names

MikeInFHAZ · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 1401 Location: location location

well, i dont know what the Globe area has to do with the Salome, but if you read the mythology of the New Testament you will see where the pronuciation comes from. BTW, I was friends with the Grahams, sorry. Shocked

It was also pronounced sal-oh-may by Oscar Wilde in his "a tragedy in one act"
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Al_HikesAZ · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 263 Location: Scottsdale, AZ

azbackpackr · Posted: 11/1/2008, 4:43 am Post subject:

PINALENOS: I don't know how to do the tilde on my keyboard! And you are right. I had to look through several guidebooks to find a reference that included the tilde on the second "n."

MOUNT HUETHAWALI: Bingo!! I do have a spelling and pronunciation for Mount Huethawali. Found the spelling on my big GC map just now. (We talked about climbing it a year ago when we camped next to it, but we wussed out.) Anyway, best info I have says it's pronounced something like "wahth WALLy." Only 3 syllables, you don't pronounce the "a" in the middle. (While we're giving nicknames, you could call it Wally for short!) So it's another one that isn't pronounced like it's spelled.

SALOME and CHARLEBOIS: I had never heard Salome called "Sal o MAY" either. I did know you are supposed to say "Charley Boy" Spring, even though I took two semesters of French about 100 years ago and I can approximate the correct original French pronunciation of Charlebois. "Sharl BWAH," in case you are interested. I think it's fun to say it both ways, but then, I just am a lover of language.

HOHOKAM: Another one I used to mispronounce until my sister called me on it was "Hohokam." She explained why it was wrong that I was saying "ho ho KAHM." She says the Native Americans say "Ho HOH kum" and they should know better than we do, seeing as it is a word in their language, which they still speak. She makes a study of anthropology, so I believe her. She also indicated that only Yuppie newbie non-natives say "ho ho KAHM." Sort of like your "Sal o MAY??"

I am moving to Yuma tomorrow, just for the winter, so I will keep my ears peeled for new and interesting place names! I will be off line until Monday or Tuesday, just as soon as I take this computer apart and put it in the car. I might set up the old dinosaur computer here, but might not take the time, also. I hate moving, but I'm so excited about this new adventure. (Which will include job hunting! Yikes!) And I will have high speed DSL there! Yippee!

MikeInFHAZ · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 1401 Location: location location

ok, i have found little description after a long search for any current evidence to support the pronunciation. So, you can call it Shalom and I can call it Salami. Those will be our 'nod, nod, wink wink' passwords from here on out for when I see you on the trails! Mr. Green

next on the list:
Javelina
pronounced "peccary"

liz, the ñ is alt + 0241 on my keyboard
and I agree its Pena Layn-yo
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Shawn · Posted: 11/1/2008, 8:02 am Post subject:

I spent some bucks on a copy of "X Marks the Spot, Historical Place Names in Arizona" by Byrd Howell Granger. It lists two different pronunciations for Salome Creek, but I don't believe we have the text capabilities here to replicate them. It does give a couple different stories as to the origin of the name.

This book is said by some to be "the" authority on names, but I guess that is in the eyes of the reader. Lots of interesting stories in it tho.

(I have to be careful with this book, opening in can lead to hours of browsing.)
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azbackpackr · Posted: 11/1/2008, 9:10 am Post subject:

n n241 n n nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn n0241 nnnnnnnnn

azbackpackr · Posted: 11/1/2008, 9:12 am Post subject:

Well, as you can see either it doesn't work on mine or I don't know how to use the alt button. I used to have an old mac that was very easy to make the "enya" with.

MikeInFHAZ · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 1401 Location: location location

hold the alt button down while you press 0241 then release alt button

here's a couple more I like (so you dont have to type "degrees") you can do alt + 0176

55°

or, if you love me like I know you do, you can type alt + 3

♥♥♥♥♥

another good one.. alt + 0162 so you dont have to type "$0.02"
it comes out as

2¢

well, thats my 2¢ worth!
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Shawn · Posted: 11/1/2008, 2:33 pm Post subject:

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oliverr99 · Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 632 Location: Glendale

94¢ Hey it works, wow, the things you learn!

93° Temp outside

This is fun!
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azbackpackr · Posted: 11/1/2008, 6:12 pm Post subject:

OK, I'm going to try it:

azbackpackr · Posted: 11/1/2008, 6:14 pm Post subject:

Doesn't work on this old dinosaur. Or maybe it's the dinosaur who's doing the work! Rolling Eyes

lzyboy · Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 201 Location: Mesa

So let's sum up the gist (pronounced jist) of this thread:

Spelling guide - OK as long as you actually care if you spell correctly, can actually hit all the keys you mean to hit as you type, can use the ALT key effectively??? But already too many pages to scan to find a particular spelling...

Pronunciation guide - about the same as Wikipedia, where anyone can submit a word, a definition, a pronunciation and it becomes truth by consensus??

Isn't the internet fun? Try Google-ing a misspelling and see how many hits you get, it's abominable... So my question is this... What, or who, is the authority on spelling? On pronunciation? Is it Merriam-Webster?? Is it Britannica?? I think Ken is right...
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Al_HikesAZ · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 263 Location: Scottsdale, AZ