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Shawn
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 2:47 pm    Post subject: Paper or Plastic? Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm listening to "The World Without Us" by Alan Weisman. I don't quite get the title, it's more about what we've done to the planet than what will happen when we are gone, but it is still more than worth while and very interesting. The most shocking thing I've heard so far is the extent to which plastic has spread across and throughout the world. This stuff doesn't rot, the pieces just get smaller and smaller and wind up in the oceans where sea animals ingest it and it enters the food chain.

The book will help me to remember my canvas grocery bag when I run into Safeway so often.
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

There's a special on the History Channel tonight about the world after humans are vanished. I imagine plastic will be the one thing that will remain after eons that will tell about us.

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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Here's a link to the program -
http://www.history.com/minisites/life_after_people

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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What a stupid concept for a show! How would anyone know what the world will be like when humans are gone? If I was making this show, I could make up any scenario I wanted. Who would say that I'm wrong? Nobody, cause nobody would be around. Does this make sense to anyone?


When humans are gone, plastic containers will rule the world. They will band together and decree a plastic 50 gallon drum their king. Peace will reign for hundreds of years until violent volcanic eruptions melt this new plastic world.

So stupid....
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Eek Relax Matt, it's fiction.... if it were showing at the theater billed as futuristic action movie would you be so miffed? They don't even pretend to be reporting facts....I heard imagine and imagination used on that clip several times......
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

funny thing is a person's imagination seems to be stifled when watching T.V.
I guess we're trained like Pavlov's dog.
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

When humans are gone Richie Rich will rule the Earth! Crazy
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

evenstar wrote:
When humans are gone Richie Rich will rule the Earth! Crazy


That's right.....why change things!
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

But poor Richie. He won't have anyone to follow him around with a plastic baggie.
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

azhiker96 wrote:
But poor Richie. He won't have anyone to follow him around with a plastic baggie.


Hooli's human Question Shocking!
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

There are places on earth where the humans just walked away, in recent years, Chernobyl (SP?) comes to mind, the book mentions Cyprus, where for political reasons, the population left and didn't come back for decades, the buildings started to deteriorate, plants took over the asphalt, water systems failed, etc.

The book is more about the effect of humans on the planet, interesting section today was on the English fellow who began fertilization on plants and his experiments.
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Shawn wrote:
There are places on earth where the humans just walked away, in recent years, Chernobyl (SP?) comes to mind, the book mentions Cyprus, where for political reasons, the population left and didn't come back for decades, the buildings started to deteriorate, plants took over the asphalt, water systems failed, etc.

The book is more about the effect of humans on the planet, interesting section today was on the English fellow who began fertilization on plants and his experiments.


There are "plastic Islands" in the Pacific Ocean made up of our throwaways that cover many square miles....they ain't gonna go away but are just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger. Cockroaches, which will probably be the last living things on our planet, ain't gonna be happy.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/oceans/la-me-ocean2aug02,0,3130914.story
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That is scary!
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PostPosted: 1/21/2008, 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hey, I don't mind chucking out a few plastic bottles if I get some of those cool fishing net floats in return. When I lived on Saipan I had a couple dozen of them...

Oh, and don't worry, there's a moon-sized meteorite headed straight for the equator, even the cockroaches are going to be space dust....
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PostPosted: 1/22/2008, 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

GTG wrote:
There's a special on the History Channel tonight about the world after humans are vanished. I imagine plastic will be the one thing that will remain after eons that will tell about us.

GTG


That program was awesome. It was so true when they said the oceans would regain their prolific life and how we humans treated it as "a pantry and a toilet".
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