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fairweather8588





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PostPosted: 11/5/2007, 5:43 pm    Post subject: Sample Ultralight Packweight Reply to topic Reply with quote

Here's a sample UL pack that I've accumulated to match the current mild winter season, open to questions or critiques of what I carry (or don't carry)Only boil water at night, for a simple meal like Mountain House or Enertia Trailfoods, plus a drink like cocoa or apple cider if i'd like. Food isn't listed, but count on the typical 2-2 1/2 lbs per day. Also the list is intended for if the chances of rain are slim, then the list would change accordingly

Shelter:
Spinnaker Tarp (Homemade) - 5.8 oz
Vargo Ti stakes (8 ) - 2.6 oz
AirCore Nano Guyline (50ft, 200lb strength) -0.8 oz
Tyvek groundsheet - 4 oz
Therm-a-rest Prolite 3 - 20.3 oz
Nunatak Arc Alpinist (down overfill) - 19 oz
Therm-a-rest Pillow - 7.5 oz

Kitchen:
Mo-Go-Gear Firefly (stove, potstand, windscreen and reflector set) - 1.5 oz
Backpacking Light SUL 550 pot - 1.89 oz
MSR Titan Spoon - 0.52 oz
Nalgene 4oz bottle with fuel - 2.9 oz

Clothing:
Patagonia longsleeve Midweight - 7.9 oz
Under Armour longsleeve - 5.7 oz
REI fleece jacket - 10.3 oz
REI merino socks (campwear) - 3.2 oz
Fleece hat - 1.7 oz
Mountain Hardwear gloves - 1.41 oz
GoLite Ether - 3.5 oz

Misc. Gear:
GoLite Jam2 (trimmed down) - 20.6 oz
MSR Dromlite 4-Liter - 3.2 oz
Aquafina 16 oz bottles (2) - 1.6 oz
-Black Diamond Ion
-Aqua Mira in BPL droppers
-Gerber Knife
-1/2 of a firestarting stick
-Mini Bic
-Photon Freedom Micro LED
-Whistle
-Band-aids and Duct tape
-bandana
^All in a mesh stuff sack - 7.1 oz


8.4 lbs total weight

Clothing Worn:
REI MTS Shirt - 5 oz
The North Face Prophecy trail runners - 14 oz
Mountain Hardwear Canyon Pants - 10 oz
REI summit poles - 20 oz
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PostPosted: 11/5/2007, 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Pretty dang good, Andrew. I hope to be there sometime soon as an alternative to the "comfy" pack.

Just a thought, maybe go with a 3/4 prolite and a prolite trail seat. You could use fleece as a pillow.
Maybe go with a real light long sleeve fleece pullover instead of the jacket which would be complimented by the Ether if you needed the extra coverage.

Just suggestions. You guys are way lighter than I am.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah, nice list!! I almost suspect you are baiting people here by adding the 7.5 oz therm-a-rest pillow to an UL list. Laughing especially like your kitchen set-up.

there are some minor gear items here that I wouldn't pack - (extra socks, whistle, bandaids, firestarting stick) and some others you don't list that I would insist on bringing, or at least, don't yet have the courage to leave behind- (paperback, journal, pen, bug repellent, toothbrush, toothpaste, wetwipes, lightsaber, etc)

I still have a ways to go.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 2:12 pm    Post subject: Tee-hee I have a new pack Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mtn Laurel Designs made me a 6 oz prophet pack and I need to get out and use it!! So... I just played with my excel program and my pack weight should I go out for three days this week would be 12.6 pounds which includes food and two quarts of water, spare socks, wind shirt, down jacket, silk undies, my camera, a book and my cigarettes. It does not include whatever I wear during the day.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Have you considered lighter hiking poles ? Gossamer Gear makes some carbon fiber ones 5oz. for a pair!

http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gossamergear/Lightrek_Trekking_Poles.html

I think I am wanting one of these Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

desertgirl wrote:
Have you considered lighter hiking poles ? Gossamer Gear makes some carbon fiber ones 5oz. for a pair!

http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gossamergear/Lightrek_Trekking_Poles.html

I think I am wanting one of these Very Happy


Do you think the fixed length is good?
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

fixed length works for everyone who buys them! haha
actually I for one have not once collapsed my poles to carry in pack. Fixed length is perfect, and these will be under the tree this year for sure!
This generation has worked out some of the bugs, even last years model was still a good pole.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

maryphyl wrote:
desertgirl wrote:
Have you considered lighter hiking poles ? Gossamer Gear makes some carbon fiber ones 5oz. for a pair!

http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gossamergear/Lightrek_Trekking_Poles.html

I think I am wanting one of these Very Happy


Do you think the fixed length is good?


There's an adjustable length one in the works as well. With carbon fiber poles - I think the fixed length model will have better perfomance.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The early carbon fiber poles that Leki put out had all kinds of problems with the locking mechanisms at the joints. I am sure they have fixed the problem by now though.....
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

My biggest problem with those is that I let the straps to A LOT of the work for me. Especially on the down hills the amount of pressure I can put on them as opposed to trying to have a "killer" grip.

I would be willing to give the fixed length a shot, although there have been a few times I have collapsed mine to attach to the pack.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tim you have a "keeper cord" attatchement on the GG poles, and TitaiumGoat makes collapsible ones, and anyone else who has looked for other brands will tell you they just dont meet the light weight target. I dont understand how Leki can make a carbon pole but it still weighs 14 ounces. ??
GG are the best according to reviews. check BPL for input.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah I know there is a "keeper cord" attachment. I can just imagine my hands after putting 50 or so pounds of force on some 3mm cord all the way down Kaibab. There is a big difference between 2.6 ounces and 14 ounces. I would be real happy with 6 ounces and some regular straps, fixed length and all.
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PostPosted: 11/6/2007, 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I guess I'll be using the type of keeper cord that you see on cameras and such. Its a 1/4 inch flat ribbon cord. You know what Im talking about. I doubt it would hold 50 lbs tho.
I was checking out the carbon poles on rei.com and most of them are really heavy for carbon. Where is all the weight coming from? If TiGoat can make them 7 ounces with the same features?
long live cottage gear, I guess.

hey Andrew, the bottles are 1.6 oz each
you can ditch the tyvek and go with GG poly sheet, 2 oz.
also change the pillow to an arm floatie, 1.5 oz.
I would keep the fire starters. Always have 3 forms of firestarting. See Cody Lundin's "98.6 degrees" book.
take the REI poles back the minute you see the GG graphite poles hit your doorstep.
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PostPosted: 11/7/2007, 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I wish I had the money for GG poles, but right now finding a job is more important. As for the spare socks, I only carry one for the hiking part so I like to have a spare warm pair for sleeping/campwear. I've tried using clothes, and a dromlite as a pillow but so far the TRM pillow gives me the best nights sleep
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PostPosted: 11/7/2007, 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

OK--I did it and I am running away from home again. It weighs 14 pounds for three days. mp
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