El Camino Del Diablo

azbackpackr · Posted: 2/5/2006, 5:46 am Post subject:

According to my son, who lives in Yuma, local law enforcement and the Border Patrol recommend you take several vehicles and lots of people on this drive as it is a major drug trafficking route. Be very careful. Border Patrol and Sheriff's deputies shot at on a daily basis by these criminals. My son lives in east Yuma. Two miles south of his subdivision in an open area the sheriff's volunteers are shot at all the time--they have told my son this when he goes out there.

Take firearms. You have a right to defend yourself if necessary.

Why we can put men on the moon but can't police our own border is beyond me! PC sucks!

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Hikngrl · Posted: 2/5/2006, 9:29 am Post subject:

OK, Now I am bummed...I eleviated my slef from the possiblity of this trip and now they are not coming..... any openings still?
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azbackpackr · Posted: 2/5/2006, 12:32 pm Post subject:

Well, now that I have you all shooting each other.... Really you guys, PLEASE, take more than one vehicle!! Three would be even better than two. I just talked to my son about this on the phone yesterday. He wants to do that drive too, but it's been all over the news down in Yuma about the Border Patrol being shot at daily in that area. I wouldn't mind going there with you myself, but I can't make that weekend. (And I'd come loaded for bear!) The people who are crossing the border in that area are organized by various cartels to move humans and drugs. They carry automatic weapons--those kind of machine guns that are generally illegal even here in Arizona. The Mexican federales and army are also paid off, and sometimes cross the border themselves if they feel like it--i.e. if there's dinero involved. And then some people call us racist if we complain?? Gimme a break.

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I'm going and have a seat or two open. Diane, want to ride with one nurse and another in training?
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Nighthiker · Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1714

Take and post lots of pictures, I will be in Casa Grande for a road ride event.

RedRoxx44 · Queen of the Walkabout Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 1167

I got the emails, please ya'll check for responses, I hope to have more info soon.
Once I have the "current" rules and regs I'll let you know. BTW a friend of mine is a lieutenant or whatever sector heads are with Border Patrol, and he says while things are active, seem pretty stable and the route is driven without too much hassle these days. Use common sense.
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Hikngrl · Posted: 2/6/2006, 5:34 pm Post subject:

Well, never mind all..... I am sorry but work has finally started on our kitchen and though it will be a painfully slow process I need to keep some weekends open to help Ron with the remodel! If I don't stay home on some weekends I will have to cancel actual hikes and goodness knows I don't want to do that!
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RedRoxx44 · Queen of the Walkabout Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 1167

I have the info from Cabeza Prieta and have emailed the ranger with some questions. Drivers, please email your mailing addresses to me as the copies I have look like they will fax poorly. I will get to you as soon as I can. Please make your own copies for passengers to sign.
We'll decide how to collate it all later.
Thanks---
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RedRoxx44 · Queen of the Walkabout Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 1167

Let's review and please feel free to correct me. I am a poor leader at best and especially right now.

Letty's Cherokee-- 2 adult- 2kids
Letty's Wrangler--me, and an open spot for the moment
George's Grand Cherokee--2 and ????
THE XTERRA--3 and Richie Rich
Lawrences BIG TRUCK--3-4
Hnak--????--himself and ???

Some of my group want to camp out Fri nite/ I will be in Gila Bend somewhere.
Tenatively we will meet up 6:00 am at Cabeza Prieta Refuge Headquarters in Ajo.
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Nighthiker · Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 1714

Will you be stopping by Quitabaquito Springs ?