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Tom Treks Gear Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3347
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, what type of attachment do the fuel cans have? Threaded like MSR, or non-threaded like Campingaz? Is it proprietary?
Just curious. The cans are rather inexpensive, and they tout better efficiency. |
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pfredricks
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 347 Location: Peoria, AZ
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I havent seen this thing in person yet.
Is it just me or is it kinda bulky?? Maybe just an illusion, with the pics.
Maybe Tom will carry it anyway. _________________ "I am just going outside and may be some time."- Explorer Oates' last words before crawling out of his tent in -40 C temps. Sacrificed himself so as not to hold back his 1912 South Pole expedition teamates. |
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Tom Treks Gear Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3347
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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LOL. No, I'm pretty happy with the rig I have. Just picked up some more lightweight titanium stuff. A bit more diverse I'd say.
The Jetboil deal look pretty trick in person though. |
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gpsjoe
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 535 Location: Mesa AZ
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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HikerInGilbert wrote: |
Hey, what type of attachment do the fuel cans have? |
It's the standard screw on fitting so most off-the-shelf MSR, Primus, Coleman or other butane/propane canisters work. However, only the smaller Jeboil canister will fit inside of the cup to achieve 1 piece packaging that is great for backpacking.
Concerning the apparent size of the unit, it is equal to or smaller than your usual combination of burner/fuel canister/pots/cup that it replaces. |
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matt gilbert
Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Posts: 698 Location: Mesa
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Joe's right, it all fits inside the can so if anything, while packed away it is smaller than the bulk of the average cookset/stove/fuel combo. It's when it's all set up that it starts to look awkward, I haven't used one yet but they look like they would be awful top-heavey, especially full of water. _________________ Cogito ergo ambulo cum sacculo
-Matt Gilbert |
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Davis2001R6
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 5591 Location: Italy
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Does a regular size fuel canister fit inside of it also. I thought I tried it today and it was too large to fit inside. Maybe I was wrong.
TIM |
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pfredricks
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 347 Location: Peoria, AZ
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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What would the advantage be over something like the apparently little known Vaude Pocket Rocket?-I think it is smaller, lighter, uses comparable fuel, simmers well. Oh and costs less...... _________________ "I am just going outside and may be some time."- Explorer Oates' last words before crawling out of his tent in -40 C temps. Sacrificed himself so as not to hold back his 1912 South Pole expedition teamates. |
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gpsjoe
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 535 Location: Mesa AZ
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Matt, it may look top heavy but I have not had a problem with it tipping over. I've had mine almost a year now.
Tim, only the jetboil canister is small enough to fit inside. All others are too wide. I've been using the larger canisters anyway. If I was in the mode of trying to slim down for a serious backpack I would go with the smaller jetboil canister.
I like the jetboil. It's fast and easy to handle when heated. It has a handle and a neoprene cover that allows you to easily pour boiling water into a coffee cup or freezer bag with dehydrated stuff to be cooked. I pour from the unit with the gas canister still attached and at times have poured with the flame on (I'm sure that's not advised).
Jetboil advises not to put in more than 16 ounces but I regularly ignore that and go all the way to 28-30 ounces if needed. That's a CYA for jetboil since the water boils fast and will spray out of the top if you don't shut off the gas promptly. So jetboil does not want to be blamed for scalding people. But I have not had a problem with that even when I had boiling water coming out of the top of the unit. |
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matt gilbert
Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Posts: 698 Location: Mesa
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Posted: 5/11/2005, 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Good, I'm glad to hear the unit works so nicely. I really do like the idea of it, but have been aprehensive about picking one up. Now I know, but I think I'm still gonna wait for the ultralight model to come out _________________ Cogito ergo ambulo cum sacculo
-Matt Gilbert |
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paintninaz
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 3515
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey Joe, Have you tried the Jetboil French Press?...that alone may make the whole stove a worthwhile investment!! _________________ ~Tracy
“Friends make the bad times good — and the good times unforgettable.” |
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gpsjoe
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 535 Location: Mesa AZ
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 8:42 am Post subject: |
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I have not tried the French Press yet. I have a separate French Press but don't use it. I've been using Taster's Choice instant mostly and sometimes Folgers coffee bags.
The French Press probably makes a better cup of coffee, but hey, I'm a guy who lives out of restaurants, the microwave and anything you can rip open and eat. Anything that looks like cooking or cleaning up afterwards is to be avoided like the plague.
So, I use the jetboil exclusively to heat water I can pour into something and make food and drink. That way I never have to wash it since boiling water was all that was ever in it! |
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SUN_HIKER
Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 1057
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Here is a link for jetboil and accessories
http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Accessories
It really is no bulkier than other stoves. I have a small MSR stove but by the time I add the pot it takes up the same volume of space.
The jetboil is designed to be efficient even in high winds. Just the other day on the Mogollon Rim, while my stove was still thinking about heating the water, gpsjoe already sipped on his coffee.
GB _________________ SUN_HIKER
http://community.webshots.com/user/sun_hiker
Nobody can make you feel inferior
without your permission.
-Eleanor Roosevelt- |
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desertgirl
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 3350 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 11:09 am Post subject: |
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What is the actual "trailweight" of this system ?
What I can construe from web posted weights -- 6oz for stove w/o fuel
100gms of Jetboil fuel for another 3.5 oz
Can some one who owns this verify ? If it really comes in at 9.5 oz then I am buying one .....
REI has them on sale for 59.99 ... _________________ Photos: http://www.pbase.com/desertgirl/galleries
Life is but a dream ...there is no end to what you can dream! |
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Davis2001R6
Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 5591 Location: Italy
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I think it's 14oz |
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desertgirl
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 3350 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: 5/12/2005, 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Davis2001R6 wrote: |
I think it's 14oz |
That's kinda what I thought s -- some where between 15-18 oz is what I have seen
Should have read the product into better ...
Total system weight is 15.25 ounces: stove weighs 6 ounces and cooking cup with lid weighs 9.25 ounces
Add the weight if the cartridge to it -- Its about 18oz ....That's a 1lb 2 oz!
Now my current system -- 3.5 oz stove head; 8 oz - MSR fuel can ( I can go smaller ?) + 5 oz titanium pot = 16.5 oz
Interesting toss up ! I might just have to give Jetboil a try ... _________________ Photos: http://www.pbase.com/desertgirl/galleries
Life is but a dream ...there is no end to what you can dream! |
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